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Hi,

 

I am studying a math course and the following operation is performed on an integral but is not explained:

 

F(s)=testdt=1std(est)

 

Could somebody explain what happened here?

 Jun 17, 2017
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Let u = e-st  then du/dt = -se-st or e-stdt = -(1/s)du so we can write the integral as:

 

testdt1stdu1std(est)

 Jun 17, 2017
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Excellent, thank you for explaining.

 Jun 17, 2017
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Thanks Alan,

I would not have got that either without you showing me.

I just want to finish it.

 

Let

u=estthendudt=sestestdt=1sdu

 

so we can write the integral as:

 

testdt1stdu1std(est)

 

u=estln(u)=stt=ln(u)s

 

So

 

1stdu=1sln(u)sdu=1s21ln(u)duintegrate by partsdadu=1b=ln(u)a=udbdu=1u=1s2([ab]adbdudu)=1s2([uln(u)]u1udu)=1s2([uln(u)]1du)=1s2([uln(u)]u)+c=us2(ln(u)1+k)

 

Why would you ever want to present it with the extra step in the question? 

 Jun 17, 2017
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Your last step has the closing bracket in the wrong place Melody! It should be:

 

us2(lnu1)+c

 

(The constant shouldn't be multiplied by u, a function of t).

 

This also affects Max's extension below (now corrected by Max).

Alan  Jun 18, 2017
edited by Alan  Jun 18, 2017
edited by Alan  Jun 18, 2017
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But u = e^(-st) so:

us2(lnu1)+k=ests2(st1)+k

 Jun 18, 2017
edited by MaxWong  Jun 18, 2017
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Yes of course. Thanks Max.

 

I still wnder where that extra step in the question could ever be useful :)

Melody  Jun 18, 2017

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